Monday 1 June 2009
a blog post with faustian consequences
Is it snobby to make references that some people don't understand? Intertextualising (including other texts in a text) is what all the "cool" TV shows do... The Simpsons, Scrubs, Southpark... so why then should it be different for literature? Shouls it be? I think there were about 4 people in my class who knew who/ what Faust was. Isn't that a travisty? ...or, is it just me?
Love, a potential snob.
Love, a potential snob.
# posted by Hil : Monday, June 01, 2009
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you're only a snob to people that don't know. to people that do you are just normal.
I have to admit, that besides a reference to it from Tintin, I was unawares. Remember Bianca Castaphiore, she kept trying to sing a song from the opera about Faust.
I have to admit, that besides a reference to it from Tintin, I was unawares. Remember Bianca Castaphiore, she kept trying to sing a song from the opera about Faust.
It shouldn't be any different in literature, and it is NOT snobbery! It just allows those who do understand the reference to enjoy the text on an extra level to those who don't.
I love reading along, and coming across a reference to some other text I've read, and understanding the subtle joke or the point they are making when I know that it would pass right over others heads! So that enjoyment of knowing others might miss the reference *is* snobby (of me!), but not just the simple inclusion by the writers.
I think that it is sad that people don't at least know the basics of the story, or the name, at least from somewhere, but as a whole people's general knowledge has massive holes in it and being in the digital age where we have no reason to remember anything ever again because the internet is everywhere and so accessible, that isn't going to change anytime soon.
And there ends my essay. If only I could use it in my actual essay I should be writing. :)
I love reading along, and coming across a reference to some other text I've read, and understanding the subtle joke or the point they are making when I know that it would pass right over others heads! So that enjoyment of knowing others might miss the reference *is* snobby (of me!), but not just the simple inclusion by the writers.
I think that it is sad that people don't at least know the basics of the story, or the name, at least from somewhere, but as a whole people's general knowledge has massive holes in it and being in the digital age where we have no reason to remember anything ever again because the internet is everywhere and so accessible, that isn't going to change anytime soon.
And there ends my essay. If only I could use it in my actual essay I should be writing. :)
# posted by 
: 9:14 pm
: 9:14 pm
and how in the hell is your blog post a deal with the devil. maybe I need to read it again.
I hate it in movies when there is a hilarious reference and I'm the only one that gets it, or at least laughs.
I hate it in movies when there is a hilarious reference and I'm the only one that gets it, or at least laughs.
I siad "in my class" there was a reference about Faust, not in my blog... though i'll use it from now on if you wish....
# posted by : 2:40 pm
: 2:40 pm
Not sure if you are familiar with Dennis Miller, but he earns a pretty good living making references to things many people don't understand (and sometimes the humor comes from that lack of understanding).
Knowing more than some doesn't make you snobby. Exercising your knowledge in varying crowds doesn't make you snobby either.
If you hang out with people who know everything you do, you'll never learn anything new...and neither will they.
And by the way, a group of people not knowing about Faust is not a travesty...it's an opportunity to tell a room full of people about Faust (you are a teacher, right?). :)
As a side note, I think a lot of intertextualization is laziness, bordering on intellectual plagiarism. Sometimes knowledge becomes an excuse to stop thinking.
Knowing more than some doesn't make you snobby. Exercising your knowledge in varying crowds doesn't make you snobby either.
If you hang out with people who know everything you do, you'll never learn anything new...and neither will they.
And by the way, a group of people not knowing about Faust is not a travesty...it's an opportunity to tell a room full of people about Faust (you are a teacher, right?). :)
As a side note, I think a lot of intertextualization is laziness, bordering on intellectual plagiarism. Sometimes knowledge becomes an excuse to stop thinking.
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